when i was a jobot i had the fear of demons rammed down my throat.. now i am without any faith, i don't have that fear because it seems irrational.
a fairy tale from the minds of some weirdo.. now i don't have to worry about buying stuff 2nd hand.. it always amused me how some jobots would pooh pooh charity (goodwill to my american cousins), shops or 2nd hand shops in case demons inhabited a jumper or a chest of drawers.
yet at the same time they'd buy a 2nd hand car.
looking back--i sometimes cant believe my old dad believed in demons / evil spirits etc. Dad was a very intelligent man--but was all to quick to trot out all the usual stories and tales that went round and round jw circles. iIs what i grew up with. I was seriously frightened by the whole nonsense in my pre teen years and onwards.
It was only when i renounced any belief in god that the whole skipload of rubbish went away.
yes or no.
1959 watchtower pg 172 talks about elders going over board personal vendetta.
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i think you will find the elders "arrangement" didnt start till around 1970
the wt study for this week is all about disfellowshipping.
in an early paragraph it said "think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!".
however when you think about it, when this happened according to the wt teaching, jehovah still engaged with satan in the heavens (book of job) and had conversations with him about what was going on in the earth.. so why do the wt org practice shunning when jehovah god obviously didn't?.
welcome to the site--CJAsher.
As mentioned above--just take one step at a time. This site has helped 1000's of JW's over the last 20 years.
You will find lots of help out there on the net--hers another site worth a look:
i was listening to the co talk to my wife’s congregation on sunday and pretty much the complete talk was justifying doctrinal and organizational changes and pretty much preparing the ‘rank and file’ for upcoming changes.
anyone on hear have any insight of what ‘new light’ is coming in the future?.
Bloody hell..now i remember why i left this site
i was wondering would you like to have ex jw flag or a bumper sticker?
if you know how to do some graphics, i would like to see your designs.
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For me, I wouldn’t want to have 666 on any of my properties. Each to their own!
you cannot be serious ?
so, i went and bought series one and series two on second hand dvd for one pound each.. i first saw series one of fawlty towers when i was about 11, then i saw series two a year later.. it's a little dated now, but that doesn't really matter because it's still making people laugh.
that's all comedy is.. there is one episode - the kipper and the corpse - which i think is a bit rough around the edges, it's not as polished as some of the other episodes.
but it still has some great lines in it, e.g.. the two old ladies: you're in a good mood today, mr fawlty.. basil: yes, well one of the guests has just died.
slidin: . Polly is in the way and Basil ends up grasping her chest.
not Polly--but an Australian guest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35mWHlHx9no
i recorded the whole 2 series on a VHS machine
i was wondering would you like to have ex jw flag or a bumper sticker?
if you know how to do some graphics, i would like to see your designs.
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does this count ?
thousands of migrants have come to england this year, already beating last year's total.. some may have fled syria and other war-torn countries; others are economic migrants.. let me try to get my head around this phenomenon: migrants are relatively safe in france and other countries.
they then leave the relative safety of continental europe and risk their lives and that of their children by crossing the english channel in rubber dinghies.
there's just no fixing stupid, is there .
SIMON
"then I don't think this is the right site for you."
GREAT ADVICE THAT--THANKS..I'LL TAKE IT.
good bye everyone.
thousands of migrants have come to england this year, already beating last year's total.. some may have fled syria and other war-torn countries; others are economic migrants.. let me try to get my head around this phenomenon: migrants are relatively safe in france and other countries.
they then leave the relative safety of continental europe and risk their lives and that of their children by crossing the english channel in rubber dinghies.
there's just no fixing stupid, is there .
Simon--
"And FYI: obvious trolls get deleted, you should know that by now. If you think there is some "issue" to be made about me deleting a poster who obviously has zero intent in genuinely taking part in any proper discussion then I don't think this is the right site for you"
hang on--i only glanced through the guys postings--didnt seem at all like a troll to me--i even replied--which got deleted too. I had NO issue with you deleting it all--i just didnt know what had gone on in the intervening period!
it's been about 10 years since i posted here.
a lot's happened of course.
but here's where i'm at right now.. i was never (to my knowledge) disfellowshipped.
the reason i asked if the wife was also an ex jw, is---if she never was--it would be much simpler if she lays down the rules with mother....
